![]() Well, it wasn’t as though a picture of a man like this would be that rare. I mean, how did it feel? How did the people respond? wesley morris I mean, I have to imagine that’s a very unusual image of a man, let alone the man of America at that moment in time - Brad Pitt - to be out there in the world. Very, very vaginal, very Georgia O’Keeffe. And then next to him, there’s this papaya-shaped ashtray. The man is in a mini dress! jenna wortham And the reason to bring that up is because Brad Pitt isn’t wearing a pair of shorts or pants. And the other, it’s just sort of by his side. He’s got one hand up near his mouth, holding a cigarette. And it is essentially Brad Pitt reclining on one of those in-the-middle-of-the-house fireplaces.Īnd he’s just reclining there and looking up at the camera. That interview in Rolling Stone came with some very appealing packaging.Īnd what I’m talking about is in the cover photography by Mark Seliger. He’s just following Brad around Europe, asking him a bunch of annoying questions, like whether he’s smart, his relationship with Jennifer Aniston, how he feels about fame, trying to get to the heart and the soul of who Brad Pitt is. And it is ostensibly a profile of Brad Pitt conducted by the great profile writer Chris Heath. wesley morrisĪnd I got a copy of this Rolling Stone from October of 1999. It’s the most adult feeling in the world. ![]() Ģ0 years ago, I was just out of college, and I was getting mail to my house. And now, without further ado, Pyschobros. So what we’ve got are some of your favorite episodes and a couple of our favorite episodes. You know, massage some Aquaphor on what we got going. And while we’re making some new episodes, we figure we’d repopulate our stream with some oldies, but goodies. And we just don’t like the idea of a dry-ass feed. wesley morrisĪnd the occasion for this conversation is that we’re in the middle of making some new episodes. Harry Styles is definitely very soft in this way, where he can allow us to think more expansively and more softly about what it means to be a man in 2020 to 2021, which is clearly a conversation the entire world needs to be having, and to stop holding on so tightly to whatever those expectations and ideas are. If it has to be and we’re talking the cover of Vogue, am I mad that it’s Harry Styles? No. It feels soft and expansive and invigorating in this way where - I mean, do I wish that the face of gender fluidity was not a cis male white pop star? Yes. jenna worthamĭoes it seem like he’s pretending or putting it on? jenna wortham I love that video, and I love Harry Styles. (SINGING) It’s the only thing I’d ever do. We’re going to get this fish back into the ocean. sexy longshoreman just be like, what is going on here? And he’s like, it’s normal, guys. He’s just running around this fishing village in just Gucci glamor, but having all these - jenna wortham (SINGING) Honey, ah-ah-ah, I’d walk through fire for you, just let me adore you. That video for “Walk Through Fire,” or whatever that song is called, where he’s running around that fishing village - jenna wortham When that cover came out, it felt so like a breath of fresh air. It feels like reverting to something more playful. Just, to me, it feels like releasing of the farcicle ideas of the gender binary and the roles that we get really boxed into as life goes on. I’m for all Harry Styles’s looks.Īnd I love the image of Harry in that field, shot by Tyler Mitchell, playing with balloons. I mean, the first thing I’ll say is, I’m for the Vogue cover. ![]() Thanks in advance, and again, for articulating the things that discomfit so many people.” wesley morris I’d be so interested to hear your thoughts on how his expression of masculinity feeds into your previous conversation. ![]() ![]() Do you ever both go back to your previous podcasts in new light? I’ve just finished listening to “Pyschobros,” and it is so timely that it’s after Harry Styles’s Vogue cover blew open that conversation with my friends. It is such a balm to the confusion with which I would previously traverse the world. “I was late to finding you and Wesley’s podcast. Ugh, I love it! “Please excuse my having slid into your DMs to ask you about this.” You are excused! Thank you for the politeness! “If this is not OK, please let me know.” Again, Wesley, we love consent in this household. Oh - yes, as long as it’s good, I’ll take it. OK, a listener named Salome (sp) sent a really nice message. You might just have to tell me what it is. Guess what treasure I found in my inbox not too long ago? wesley morris Transcript Best of the Archives: Psychobros We examine the portrayal of masculinity as mental illness in “Joker,” “Succession” and “Fight Club.” Thursday, February 11th, 2021 jenna wortham ![]()
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